First of all, I didn't suggest that we should simply get rid of all prisons.
I'm suggesting that we abolish the social function of prisons.
I'm involved in the work around prison rights in general.
Poor people, people of color - especially are much more likely to be found in prison than in institutions of higher education.
Prisons do not disappear problems, they disappear human beings…
Jails and prisons are designed to break human beings, to convert the population into specimens in a zoo - obedient to our keepers, but dangerous to each other.