In my sophomore year at Fresno, they just threw me in, ... I...

In my sophomore year at Fresno, they just threw me in, ... I needed that. I think I swim rather than sink. Of course there's going to be some bumps. But it also might go the other way, and there would be more good than everyone thinks there's going to be. But you've got to be out there to learn. To take the live bullets. To take the shots.