I think some people record songs and make records a certain way to cater to radio. If you're born to make commercial music that's cool. But if you're born to not make commercial records, maybe you're meant to cater to another market.
At the same time all this was happening, there was a folk song revival movement goingon, so the commercial music industry was actually changed by the Civil Rights Movement.
I have always made commercial music. The people who vote for the Grammy nominees are mostly in their 40s and have other jobs or are musicians themselves. They like music that they can relate to - they like commercial music.
Work in nightclubs was interesting. There were interesting people and places, but by and large, the commercial music experience.
The commercial music video industry is very hard to break into, and until you break in, that first job is the hardest thing in the world to get.
Commercial music is music that a lot of people connect to at the same time, but that doesn't mean it has to be something shallow or without personality.