We are seeing a lot of people who are cutting back on other necessities - food, medication - to meet their utility bills.
Many of the elderly will pay their utility bills and go without medication without food.
The utility companies are very good at not shutting people off during the winter, but we're seeing that people are going to be facing huge debt at the end of the winter.
People are going to have huge utility debts. And they're going to end up, a lot of them, shut off in the spring and summer and they're going to carry that debt into next winter.