If we beat them, it still doesn't make up for what happened...

If we beat them, it still doesn't make up for what happened last year. They've got great defense and a bullpen that's one of the best. They do all the little things. I think they're a pest for everybody. Yeah, we've had some rough elimination games there. You remember them, but you don't really think about them while you're playing. We've been eliminated in other places.