I think that what it says is from an external point of view,...

I think that what it says is from an external point of view, from a national stage, we're being recognized for excellence in what we're doing. When I first came on board with the CU College of Music in fall of 1999, one of the things I had hoped to see was some recognition at some point from these national awards. And for us to have had the 13 in five years has exceeded my expectations, but I think clearly represents the great work the students and faculty are doing.