And if I see in the superficial subconscious relationships that I'm familiar with, cliches of association, I change the picture.
One can see that a canvas is six feet by eight feet, say, quite accurately. But you can spend two minutes and think it's five, or thirty seconds and it's just a different bed for activities there.
Pollock also... wanted one to be wrapped in the painting.
Oracle was I had started it I guess two and a half years ago, maybe even longer than that, closer to three.
But I found a lot of artists at the Cedar Bar were difficult for me to talk to.
I did a twenty foot print and John Cage is involved in that because he was the only person I knew in New York who had a car and who would be willing to do this.
I think maybe chance works better in a situation like music because music exists over a period of time, and you don't maintain constantly the you can't refer back from one area to another area.
I don't think that we have the strength over a period of years to see things always as though we hadn't ever looked at them before to see them new.