He's got a loss and a tie, and we'd certainly like to get him a win. You see the effort all of these captains have put into it, and we certainly want them to have a win, because it's not a whole lot of fun when you lose. Tying is about the same. S,o hopefully, we can get him a win.
You see the effort they put into it, ... and to have them do it three times, we certainly want them to have a win. All of us have seen both sides of it, too. It's not a whole lot of fun when you lose, and tying is about the same.